Valparaiso University’s credit cut to junk by Moody’s

[Mikovio]

Hindsight's 20/20. They were a frequent NCAA/NIT team at the time, and I think the Beacons were making promises about facilities renovations that never came to light, no pun intended.

[IllinoisState]

Hindsight's 20/20. They were a frequent NCAA/NIT team at the time, and I think the Beacons were making promises about facilities renovations that never came to light, no pun intended.

Based on recent success what current MVC teams would we take anyway? Certainly not Evansville, Valpo, Illinois State, SIU, and Murray State.

UIC only for the same reasons we took them in the first place.

UNI and Indiana State maybe.

Belmont, Bradley, and Drake yes.

[Kyle_Saluki_17]

Hindsight's 20/20. They were a frequent NCAA/NIT team at the time, and I think the Beacons were making promises about facilities renovations that never came to light, no pun intended.

Based on recent success what current MVC teams would we take anyway? Certainly not Evansville, Valpo, Illinois State, SIU, and Murray State.

UIC only for the same reasons we took them in the first place.

UNI and Indiana State maybe.

Belmont, Bradley, and Drake yes.

There is only one championship to go around per year and 12 schools to compete for it. I’m curious how you would include Belmont above the others schools, aside from the market. Only 1 team can win, but other schools can be good enough to help support at large chances while some hurt it. That would be more relevant when looking at in conference teams.

[IllinoisState]

Hindsight's 20/20. They were a frequent NCAA/NIT team at the time, and I think the Beacons were making promises about facilities renovations that never came to light, no pun intended.

Based on recent success what current MVC teams would we take anyway? Certainly not Evansville, Valpo, Illinois State, SIU, and Murray State.

UIC only for the same reasons we took them in the first place.

UNI and Indiana State maybe.

Belmont, Bradley, and Drake yes.

There is only one championship to go around per year and 12 schools to compete for it. I’m curious how you would include Belmont above the others schools, aside from the market. Only 1 team can win, but other schools can be good enough to help support at large chances while some hurt it. That would be more relevant when looking at in conference teams.

Belmont had a smooth transition from the OVC and has continued winning. They haven't had less than 20 wins since the 2009 - 10 season.

[Campbellproud]

Hindsight's 20/20. They were a frequent NCAA/NIT team at the time, and I think the Beacons were making promises about facilities renovations that never came to light, no pun intended.

That’s what chaps me the most about the whole Valpo thing. They were admitted to the league on promises that they couldn’t deliver on. Shame on the league for being naive enough to take them at their word; but shame on them for snowing the league to get in. I fully think they should be booted from the league, but I think the league will just let nature take its course and let them drop out in the next five years or so. I think that’s pretty safe to count on given their trajectory. It’s too bad because I was happy to see them join.

[TylerDurden]

Hindsight's 20/20. They were a frequent NCAA/NIT team at the time, and I think the Beacons were making promises about facilities renovations that never came to light, no pun intended.

Based on recent success what current MVC teams would we take anyway? Certainly not Evansville, Valpo, Illinois State, SIU, and Murray State.

UIC only for the same reasons we took them in the first place.

UNI and Indiana State maybe.

Belmont, Bradley, and Drake yes.

It's not about recent success. It's about capacity.

There are only two schools in this league that don't have the capacity.

[Drakey]

Hindsight's 20/20. They were a frequent NCAA/NIT team at the time, and I think the Beacons were making promises about facilities renovations that never came to light, no pun intended.

Based on recent success what current MVC teams would we take anyway? Certainly not Evansville, Valpo, Illinois State, SIU, and Murray State.

UIC only for the same reasons we took them in the first place.

UNI and Indiana State maybe.

Belmont, Bradley, and Drake yes.

It's not about recent success. It's about capacity.

There are only two schools in this league that don't have the capacity.

Valpo and who?

[BCPanther]

Valpo and who?

Evansville.

[MissouriValleyUnite]

Having been to each arena in the league, Evansville has one of the better arenas not only here but for a mid-major in general. Evansville’s fan base is in the upper half of the conference. Those two things (facilities, fan/community support) make Evansville’s capacity not comparable to Valpo’s.

Capacity /=/ Results

People are retconning results into capacity. Evansville’s capacity is there. The results haven’t.

[BCPanther]

Having been to each arena in the league, Evansville has one of the better arenas not only here but for a mid-major in general. Evansville’s fan base is in the upper half of the conference. Those two things (facilities, fan/community support) make Evansville’s capacity not comparable to Valpo’s.

Capacity /=/ Results

People are retconning results into capacity. Evansville’s capacity is there. The results haven’t.

They've dropped under 2000 undergraduates and will get absolutely decimated by the enrollment cliff. They've burned through coaches and administrators like wildfire and, outside of baseball, aren't competitive in anything.

They're a D3 school that just happens to be in a city large enough to have built a very nice municipal arena.

I'm 99% certain all of the league preseason poll and standings graphics just come with Evansville and Valpo in the bottom two spots as a default setting.